Atheism 22.Science supports the existence of God

In recent times the pernicious ploy of the religious is to try and pretend that faith has a scientific basis.This is because science has proved so powerful and adept at showing God cannot exist that the faithful have resorted to using scientific principles to try and justify their faith. This has resulted in such travesties as Intelligent Falling and Intelligent Design theories There is now debate as to whether these ridiculous theories shoul dbe taught in classrooms- this is just a sneaky way to try and get creationism in via the back door.

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Should only atheist inspired subjects be taught in school?

Should any math, science, philosophy developed/discovered by theists be disregarded because they are all delusional, stupid etc, etc.

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by Ardipithecus Ramidus Member since:

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no just the idea that are not based on facts such as creationism

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No. Physics was popularized by Isaac Newton, a Christian Alchemist.

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Very few subjects are 'atheist-inspired'.

Atheism is what it is. It has little grounding in the history of science, politics, art etc. This is not to take anything away from the importance of secularism, but it is to highlight your ill-worded question.

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So you think that all of these things were developed by atheists?

What orifice did you pull that idea out of?

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No, but their religious input should not be taught.

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no. only evidence supported topics should be taught in school

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Of course not. What a ridiculous question.

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There is no such thing as atheist inspired subjects.

FYI: Many theists made discoveries and great accomplishments in math, science, etc etc. It was a Christian Priest who discovered The Big Bang. Bet you didn't know that.

I've never said children shouldn't learn anything theists are involved in, I just support separation of church and state in public schools. I prefer my kids learn facts to faith, as that is the point of schooling. However, if you wanted yours to learn faith mixed with some facts, there are plenty of private faith based schools to choose from. No need to muck up public schools too, just because.

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To say these subjects are "atheist inspired" is gross mistake.

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Nope.

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Yes, if by 'atheist-inspired' you mean 'secular'. If you want to hear crackpot stories about Kings slaying giants and virgins getting pregnant, go to church.

When was the last time you saw a teacher in a church, trying to force everyone there to learn algebra and grammar? Exactly.

But I would be remiss if I didn't point out that when most of what is taught in schools was being developed, everyone was a theist.

Teaching ony what we have learned from atheists would mean no one would know how to build a wheel, a combustion engine or an aeroplane.

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Not JUST because they are stupid. But if they are stupid, and their work does nothing to advance the great conversatiom, then no.

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I don't know of any subject that are atheist inspired... But in any case... Trying to make all the subjects in school inspired by the same philosophical current would be wrong...

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Nope. Only the teachings that are demonstrably wrong should be excluded,like creationism and Flat Earthism.

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No...but everything in school should have evidence to back it up (at least in science and math) and be appropriate for the class it is taught in...

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No theists have had many good ideas in mathematics, philosophy, and history. For instance algebra and the concept of zero were made by Muslim thinkers.

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Not the way I would put it.

Subjects should be taught according to the level of supporting scholarly research that support the claim via corroboration.

History can be researched and some events can be proven (despite the idiot deniers of the Holocaust).

Geography can be researched via expedition and satellite photos.

Literature, being a form of art, can be researched in artistic ways.

Science and math are subject to formal proofs, corroborative research, and verification.

Most ancient and modern philosophy (including religion and other types of mythology) should be taught in schools under a mantle of "lines of thought believed but not possible to prove as correct." There is where the disagreement comes in. They Bible thumpers don't want their myths taught with the disclaimer and don't want it taught with other related subjects.

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no because things like newtonian physics and set theory came from religious nutcases but you would hate to take those out of curriculum. Just make sure children have a solid, secular education.

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No. Schools are secular.

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well no course not

but in general they are not 'atheist inspired'

they are more education inspired ;-)

which is for eveyrone isnt it ;-D

if they know their stuff, they should be heard

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I don't know of any "atheist inspired subjects." We should teach math, science, etc. regardless of who made the discoveries.

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Please give an example of an atheist-inspired subject.

If you cannot, then your question is pointless.

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Even a theist can be intelligent about a subject as long as it does not involve his or her religious beliefs.

We atheists can give theists that. So why are you asking such a ridiculous question?

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Give us examples, sources, something that backs up your statement. Anyway, if that was just the case, those developments and discovering were made by a human, not a divine mythological being, and were made based in facts and by the observance and utilization of earthly things.

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No; but any subject which is not based on fact such as Islam and Christianity and all other religions should not be taught unless it is taught along with all other cults such as the Germanic, Indian and other forms of primitive beliefs!

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NO - because Newton thought he was discovering Gods divine clockwork - other great scientists are also theists. Paul Davies in WIKI has a reference to critcisms to his "theistic agenda" - I have read his books and never seen a bias - only reference to God.

Russell Stannard on the other hand has alluded to "having a personal dialogue with God" and although knowing science in depth - he makes remarkably stupid statements upon faith.

So I do not believe that what you refer to as "atheist inspired subjects" are actually that - what they are - are scientific concepts. If a theist is a good scientist in principle they ought to be able to deduce why atheism is the only option - as indeed Richard Dawkins has.

But if they do not make stupid faith-based assertions - and deal with the science as Paul Davies does then contributions are possible.

And even if scientists make dumb faith-based assertions they can still be a good scientist as Russell Stannard is - however they run the risk of ridicule (as indeed he did from atheist Lois Wolpert - who made a laughing stock of him).

What should never happen is that faith based assertions such as Intelligent falling or Intelligent Design be shoehorned into science upon an "equal footing" basis- because they are falling foul of how science is actually carried out.

Your questions is less about faith versus atheism and more about what good science is....unfortunately for believers,good science means putting aside your personal beliefs and being objective and allowing nature to tell you what the truth is - not thinking you know what the truth is before you start and not ever accepting that science has the ability to negate what you first believed.

Having a personal dogma that you wish to hold onto is unscientific and that is why it appears that atheists are the arbiters of what is scientific - plus the fact that if one is truly open minded and allows nature to inform you,rather than trying to hold onto what you wish to believe regardless of what science says,then you will end up atheist by default- because every piece of scientific evidence shows that God cannot and does not exist.

@Karmaged - there is no such thing as a "false religion" unless you mean ALL of them. Schools should not be places to indoctrinate young minds with nonsense fairy stories anyway. Home schooling means that someone can impress upon their child their personal beliefs without them being subject to other opinions which breeds dogma- which is I suspect what a Muslim would prefer - in schools we attempt to teach TRUTH and perhaps to the disgruntlement of the faithful the truth is that we cannot assume a deity- and all the evidence shows there is no such entity - the evidence is on the side of atheists.

If religion is taught in schools it should be on a comparative basis - that is - ALL views should be talked about and criticised and analysed without malice and without preference - or not at all.

A dogmatic belief in one faith is what causes problems in the world.

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Tell me what an atheist inspired subject is first. The only subject that might have anything to do with atheism would be logic. Just because some of the earliest scientists were also priests doesn't invalidate the things they did correctly. It was only when the science started to conflict with long held religious views that the two became separate. And once free from the hindering nature of religion, science was free to flourish. The establishment clause is there as much to keep religion out of government run institutions as it is to protect the theists rights to practice their religion without persecution. Education begins at home, so if you want your kids to learn religion, then teach them... at home. It just doesn't belong in public schools.

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I would recommend home schooling for a child or there are many excellent private schools available.

The problem with teaching religion in public schools is that opens up the door to teaching all types of false religions to children; not only that, who's to say what would be on the curriculum, for example, I seriously doubt many Christians I know would want their child taught the religion of satanism, Islam, Hinduism or even other "christian" factions that are dynamically different than their own, which the adult may recognize as being false, and opposed to the words of Christ.

Remember, a person who claims to be a "theist" can also deny the resurrection of Christ, and believers know that is not evidence of an elect believer. So it's not an easy medium, but thankfully the laws of this great country still give us choices as far as educating the next generations and we can choose private schools and curriculum at the same time institutions such as public education continue to turn their backs on the LORD.

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